Readers of this fine Substack might want to check Kim Iversen who, like Green Glennwald, covered this subject on her Rumble tonight. Her take was different and - separate to anything specific to RB - it was problematic.
Doesn't it seem like society in a race to the bottom when good honest commentators like Kim Iversen say "fuck due process, let's trust the court of public opinion," and cite OJ and Epstein as evidence of due process failure?
Advocates for due process aren't calling for due process as it may be subverted but for due process as a pragmatic ideal: innocent until proven guilty, genuine criminal charges, court trial, full testimonies from all parties, proper competent defense, sober examination of evidence, judgment by a jury of peers, punishment as prescribed by the law.
Imperfect though it may be, no other methodology works as a route to justice. Mob justice, witch hunts, trial by social media pile-on, morality policing by prurient news media: these are the opposite of fair trial. The recent Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial is a perfect example of this distinction.
Not pleased Kim Iversen didn't see the danger in what she was suggesting...
Thanks for your prompt reply. Great article by the way. It’s easy to see how easily we can be sucked in by the hype! Shared as widely as I can! I’m not sure other than that how we get through to the majority of people! It just shows the lengths they will go to to destroy the narrative! Hopefully Brand finds a way to come back from this!
The link to the Greewald video keeps coming up with a Fenwick advertisement! Would you think this is intentional to stop people watching it?
Worked fine for us. This is the link:
https://rumble.com/v3it6bs-system-update-149.html
Readers of this fine Substack might want to check Kim Iversen who, like Green Glennwald, covered this subject on her Rumble tonight. Her take was different and - separate to anything specific to RB - it was problematic.
Doesn't it seem like society in a race to the bottom when good honest commentators like Kim Iversen say "fuck due process, let's trust the court of public opinion," and cite OJ and Epstein as evidence of due process failure?
https://rumble.com/v3iv7e8-breaking-down-the-rape-and-sexual-assault-accusations-against-russell-brand.html
Advocates for due process aren't calling for due process as it may be subverted but for due process as a pragmatic ideal: innocent until proven guilty, genuine criminal charges, court trial, full testimonies from all parties, proper competent defense, sober examination of evidence, judgment by a jury of peers, punishment as prescribed by the law.
Imperfect though it may be, no other methodology works as a route to justice. Mob justice, witch hunts, trial by social media pile-on, morality policing by prurient news media: these are the opposite of fair trial. The recent Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial is a perfect example of this distinction.
Not pleased Kim Iversen didn't see the danger in what she was suggesting...
Thanks for your prompt reply. Great article by the way. It’s easy to see how easily we can be sucked in by the hype! Shared as widely as I can! I’m not sure other than that how we get through to the majority of people! It just shows the lengths they will go to to destroy the narrative! Hopefully Brand finds a way to come back from this!
Pretty simple to me, innocent until found guilty in a court of the Law! (Certainly, not the MSM!!!)
" ... do the right thing and do not feed the media beast in any way on this."
That's why you had t chime in and then recommend heading over for Greenwald's take. Don't feed the ...
Then disengage - as if.