you need to reject the country/government/nationalistic B/S you were fed in compulsory government schooling.
The lines that divide these so called countries you speak of are fake.
Did you ever see these lines from the air in a plane? That is because they do not exist.
So god is going to punish everyone within a specific boundry/border that one group of men may have created without the approval of other groups of men, committing sins others would never do but god is going to punish EVERYONE?....right??
I am sure i can point out a half dozen things you do daily that lead to, support, sanction the US Government allowing it to make such laws that would say life can be extinguished. Be careful....you will corner yourself and i will point out that you are no different than the rest you accuse of sins.......
Also Country (america) and government (USA) and not one in the same thing.
America the country/land mass existed long before the establishment of the USA Government in 1787. It is the USA Government that commits the sins that facilitate the killings
I do not support murder of any member of mankind, not even against one who has committed the sin of murder...again I have a moral compass so I have no fear that i will be getting 'yours'
Don't maximally conflate responsible, sensible environmental action with blind subservience to the extremes of "anthropogenic global warming" as found in Net Zero and the WEF agenda.
Anyone can agree that pollution of the environment and the irresponsible behaviour that comes from the egregious and unaccountable externalisation of true costs are both a bad thing. These are fundamental factors in the fights Kennedy has undertaken. They overlap with a notion that wasteful consumption of resources in all forms, including fossil fuels for energy should be reconsidered responsibly.
This is not the same as the fanatical, dogmatic pursuit of the Net Zero Agenda etc.
You have to judge on net balance. RFK Jr. should not be crudely categorised as "believing in climate change nonsense" without demonstrating what that means and the basis for it.
The fundamental truth is that no matter what the publicly stated "goals and agenda" of the worst extreme of the AGW Climate Change movement are, they are totally unachievable in any of the 2030-2050 timeframes. Governments and corporations admit this (see EU abandoning the banning of fossil fuel vehicle sales by 2035).
The USA has 18 months until a new figurehead is installed, for all that is worth. The human race has much longer to argue, refine and deal with the worst of the ways it interacts with the environment.
Even if you correctly characterise RFK's critical flaw, it's mutable, fixable and not the worst flaw he could have.
Listen to this speech and decide whether you would rather have a President who: says all these things because he knows about them, opposes them and relates to his fellow man around them, and has a track record of fighting them, but still believes in trying to address "climate change"; or
you want any other possible pick, even if they are saying vaguely similar things.
ANOTHER GREEN CALLS FOR "DENIERS" TO BE JAILED WattsUp, Sept 24, 2014 Anthony Watts
Climate Depot reports that another prominent green, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, has called for climate “deniers” to be jailed. Is it just me, or is there something very wrong with a political landscape in which people find it acceptable to demand their opponents be jailed for disagreeing with them? Watch the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yJTxrPFhM
No. As a result of the case(s) brought against Monsanto by RFK Jr. for harmful effects of glyphosate, the resultant liability from the thousands of pending cases have helped wipe billions off the market value of Monsanto. Bayer bought it for $66bn before the first judgement was settled IIRC and since then, including market fluctuations, the entire market cap of Bayer is only ~$53bn. This means that the $66bn of Monsanto has evaporated, in part due to the latent liability from the glyphosate cases.
If you don't respect Kennedy for successfully suing Monsanto, a global behemoth, for lying about the carcinogenic effects of the most used herbicide and drying agent in the world, then I'm not sure what to say. No one else had tried such a thing. As you can see from this update, Bayer has settled in around 100,000 other cases, totalling $11bn dollars, but there are still ~30,000 pending. The judge blocked Bayer from being able to deal with the claims as a single case and so multiple class actions and individual cases could still be brought, further increasing the scope of total damages.
Can you think of a series of legal cases against any other company that has achieved such outcomes at such scale?
"think of a series of legal cases against any other company that has achieved such outcomes at such scale?"
Let me ask you a question....Is this company that clearly has lied, deceived, profitted from it while injuring, sickening and killing people with its products still in business to continue doing the same ok with you?
Did suing really do a darn thing to prevent this in the future?
The company in totality needs abolished, liquidated, claims paid out and everyone from the CEO to the Janitor investigated, interviewed and if possible charged, prosecuted, convicted and jailed.....
I could care how much monsanto/bayer pays out, if it still remians in business.
Suing is like kicking the can down the road, abolishing such entities is a solution to the problem that seems to never occur...
Respecting a LAWyer for going into a government court to sue a corporation incorporated by the government over products the government license (and taxes) to be sold that pollute, are toxic...etc.....etc...... ought to be enough to realize that it is just business as usual, so no respect for suing...besides the number of 10 Billion when matched against inflation of the dollar bill is really nothing more than a number at this point. The dollar bill is so inflated that it is worth less or worthless you choose but that number does not shock me just because....... These kinds of numbers will always be higher, just like every president will borrow, spend and in debt the people more than the previous president.
Now if Kennedy would have managed to abolish , liquidate...etc....etc....monsanto well there would be mad respect.
I put this to reply to a comment below, but will put it here as well about RFK as to his stance on "Climate Change-Global Warming" is moderate and not to be confused with WEF, etc.
By their words you will know them:
ANOTHER GREEN CALLS FOR "DENIERS" TO BE JAILED WattsUp, Sept 24, 2014 Anthony Watts
Climate Depot reports that another prominent green, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, has called for climate “deniers” to be jailed. Is it just me, or is there something very wrong with a political landscape in which people find it acceptable to demand their opponents be jailed for disagreeing with them? Watch the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yJTxrPFhM
I don’t think RFK Jr has changed his mind on climate alarmism, he is a true believer in it, just a soft version to mollify and attract voters. He, like Noam Chomsky, is an essential Statist hypocrite.
We cannot vote our way to freedom. Here is what I am talking about:
KENNEDYS USED THEIR POWER TO KILL WIND FARM This Is The Hamptons, Rick Murphy, September 24, 2019
History does seem to show that the Kennedys are used as a family in the US. Those of them who challenge are taken out, so RFK will know that and act accordingly! Who are they working for? Maybe the Jesuits, if it is true that they control the FDR and the CIA etc.
The U.S. political circus conspiracy is convoluted and where and to what extent to apportion blame for me is not a worthwhile project.
The vast majority of the persons involved in the U.S. Corporate Military Political Scientific Medical Complex imbroglio are damaged and damned children staging their trauma as power-hungry adults passing on their damage and damnation (as an atheist-materialist, not meant supernaturally) in domestic violence and foreign wars—madness, murders and suicides.
All of the Human Condition can be understood in understanding the Lust for Sex and the Fear of Death as funnelled through the familial/clan filter of child abuse-neglect. See Lloyd deMause www.psychohistory.com
For example, I am currently reading two memory-holed books “A Sexual Profile of Men in Power”, 1977; and “The Kennedy Neurosis: 1973; these are “psychohistory” explorations of Sex, Death and Politics in the U.S. which have a number of revealing entries on John F Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and other damned and damaged men.
Speak for yourself....I do not deserve the persecution.
Country is just the landmass mankind lives upon.
you need to reject the country/government/nationalistic B/S you were fed in compulsory government schooling.
The lines that divide these so called countries you speak of are fake.
Did you ever see these lines from the air in a plane? That is because they do not exist.
So god is going to punish everyone within a specific boundry/border that one group of men may have created without the approval of other groups of men, committing sins others would never do but god is going to punish EVERYONE?....right??
I am sure i can point out a half dozen things you do daily that lead to, support, sanction the US Government allowing it to make such laws that would say life can be extinguished. Be careful....you will corner yourself and i will point out that you are no different than the rest you accuse of sins.......
Also Country (america) and government (USA) and not one in the same thing.
America the country/land mass existed long before the establishment of the USA Government in 1787. It is the USA Government that commits the sins that facilitate the killings
I do not support murder of any member of mankind, not even against one who has committed the sin of murder...again I have a moral compass so I have no fear that i will be getting 'yours'
Alas, the vox populi of amerika has only existed in tinsel town screenplays...RIP~1775
RFK has at least one critical flaw: he believes the climate change nonsense which will be used to enslave human beings across the nations.
Don't maximally conflate responsible, sensible environmental action with blind subservience to the extremes of "anthropogenic global warming" as found in Net Zero and the WEF agenda.
Anyone can agree that pollution of the environment and the irresponsible behaviour that comes from the egregious and unaccountable externalisation of true costs are both a bad thing. These are fundamental factors in the fights Kennedy has undertaken. They overlap with a notion that wasteful consumption of resources in all forms, including fossil fuels for energy should be reconsidered responsibly.
This is not the same as the fanatical, dogmatic pursuit of the Net Zero Agenda etc.
You have to judge on net balance. RFK Jr. should not be crudely categorised as "believing in climate change nonsense" without demonstrating what that means and the basis for it.
The fundamental truth is that no matter what the publicly stated "goals and agenda" of the worst extreme of the AGW Climate Change movement are, they are totally unachievable in any of the 2030-2050 timeframes. Governments and corporations admit this (see EU abandoning the banning of fossil fuel vehicle sales by 2035).
The USA has 18 months until a new figurehead is installed, for all that is worth. The human race has much longer to argue, refine and deal with the worst of the ways it interacts with the environment.
Even if you correctly characterise RFK's critical flaw, it's mutable, fixable and not the worst flaw he could have.
Listen to this speech and decide whether you would rather have a President who: says all these things because he knows about them, opposes them and relates to his fellow man around them, and has a track record of fighting them, but still believes in trying to address "climate change"; or
you want any other possible pick, even if they are saying vaguely similar things.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JvbTvpZq8f0E/
RFK judged by his own words:
ANOTHER GREEN CALLS FOR "DENIERS" TO BE JAILED WattsUp, Sept 24, 2014 Anthony Watts
Climate Depot reports that another prominent green, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, has called for climate “deniers” to be jailed. Is it just me, or is there something very wrong with a political landscape in which people find it acceptable to demand their opponents be jailed for disagreeing with them? Watch the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yJTxrPFhM
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/09/24/another-green-calls-for-deniers-to-be-jailed/
Exactly, at least a few of us get this.
Sorry, I don't understand why I would be happy that it is Bayer, not Monsanto, that is poisoning people instead...
The article doesn't imply that you should.
But it seems to imply that I should love or at least respect Kennedy, doesn't it? My question is related to the corollary of such a decision.
No. As a result of the case(s) brought against Monsanto by RFK Jr. for harmful effects of glyphosate, the resultant liability from the thousands of pending cases have helped wipe billions off the market value of Monsanto. Bayer bought it for $66bn before the first judgement was settled IIRC and since then, including market fluctuations, the entire market cap of Bayer is only ~$53bn. This means that the $66bn of Monsanto has evaporated, in part due to the latent liability from the glyphosate cases.
If you don't respect Kennedy for successfully suing Monsanto, a global behemoth, for lying about the carcinogenic effects of the most used herbicide and drying agent in the world, then I'm not sure what to say. No one else had tried such a thing. As you can see from this update, Bayer has settled in around 100,000 other cases, totalling $11bn dollars, but there are still ~30,000 pending. The judge blocked Bayer from being able to deal with the claims as a single case and so multiple class actions and individual cases could still be brought, further increasing the scope of total damages.
Can you think of a series of legal cases against any other company that has achieved such outcomes at such scale?
https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/roundup-mdl-judge-question-10-billion-settlement-proposal.html
No, I don't respect him and you don't have to say anything.
As a respected fellow author (we don't have to agree on anything to respect each other), you inspired me to write the following article:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-are-the-kennedys
To make a long story short, I don't think he is a hero; he is a diversion...
Diversion all the way...whether RFK jr knows it or not.
If he truly advocated for what is right he would not run to join what is wrong and that is government any and everywhere....
He is not a moron... He knows, but many people cling to him as if he was the Messiah, much like the followers of Trump or DeSantis.
Open opposition from "Public figures" is not allowed. :)
Respect for suing?
"think of a series of legal cases against any other company that has achieved such outcomes at such scale?"
Let me ask you a question....Is this company that clearly has lied, deceived, profitted from it while injuring, sickening and killing people with its products still in business to continue doing the same ok with you?
Did suing really do a darn thing to prevent this in the future?
The company in totality needs abolished, liquidated, claims paid out and everyone from the CEO to the Janitor investigated, interviewed and if possible charged, prosecuted, convicted and jailed.....
I could care how much monsanto/bayer pays out, if it still remians in business.
Suing is like kicking the can down the road, abolishing such entities is a solution to the problem that seems to never occur...
Respecting a LAWyer for going into a government court to sue a corporation incorporated by the government over products the government license (and taxes) to be sold that pollute, are toxic...etc.....etc...... ought to be enough to realize that it is just business as usual, so no respect for suing...besides the number of 10 Billion when matched against inflation of the dollar bill is really nothing more than a number at this point. The dollar bill is so inflated that it is worth less or worthless you choose but that number does not shock me just because....... These kinds of numbers will always be higher, just like every president will borrow, spend and in debt the people more than the previous president.
Now if Kennedy would have managed to abolish , liquidate...etc....etc....monsanto well there would be mad respect.
Spoken from my heart. :)
If he runs, he will be mindful that these people will stop at nothing to keep what they believe is rightfully theirs - nothing.
Sorry. He’s too extreme with environmental issues and he will just shut more oil down.
That means more recession and higher prices.
He’s the same as what we have now except for position on vaxxes.
Oil is how we got to where we currently are....without big oil there would be no big medicine which begot big pHARMa....maybe oil needs to go....
BTW Kennedy is for vaccines just not the covid vaccine.....
I put this to reply to a comment below, but will put it here as well about RFK as to his stance on "Climate Change-Global Warming" is moderate and not to be confused with WEF, etc.
By their words you will know them:
ANOTHER GREEN CALLS FOR "DENIERS" TO BE JAILED WattsUp, Sept 24, 2014 Anthony Watts
Climate Depot reports that another prominent green, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, has called for climate “deniers” to be jailed. Is it just me, or is there something very wrong with a political landscape in which people find it acceptable to demand their opponents be jailed for disagreeing with them? Watch the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yJTxrPFhM
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/09/24/another-green-calls-for-deniers-to-be-jailed/
Do you think he was ignorant at the time and has now changed his mind? Or is he controlled opposition!?
I don’t think RFK Jr has changed his mind on climate alarmism, he is a true believer in it, just a soft version to mollify and attract voters. He, like Noam Chomsky, is an essential Statist hypocrite.
We cannot vote our way to freedom. Here is what I am talking about:
KENNEDYS USED THEIR POWER TO KILL WIND FARM This Is The Hamptons, Rick Murphy, September 24, 2019
https://www.danspapers.com/2019/09/kennedys-used-their-power-to-kill-wind-farm/
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NOAM CHOMSKY, CLOSET CAPITALIST
Chomsky talks an anti-capitalist game, but what does he practice? Market economics at their most profitable. By Peter Schweizer.
Monday, January 30, 2006
https://www.hoover.org/research/noam-chomsky-closet-capitalist
History does seem to show that the Kennedys are used as a family in the US. Those of them who challenge are taken out, so RFK will know that and act accordingly! Who are they working for? Maybe the Jesuits, if it is true that they control the FDR and the CIA etc.
The U.S. political circus conspiracy is convoluted and where and to what extent to apportion blame for me is not a worthwhile project.
The vast majority of the persons involved in the U.S. Corporate Military Political Scientific Medical Complex imbroglio are damaged and damned children staging their trauma as power-hungry adults passing on their damage and damnation (as an atheist-materialist, not meant supernaturally) in domestic violence and foreign wars—madness, murders and suicides.
All of the Human Condition can be understood in understanding the Lust for Sex and the Fear of Death as funnelled through the familial/clan filter of child abuse-neglect. See Lloyd deMause www.psychohistory.com
For example, I am currently reading two memory-holed books “A Sexual Profile of Men in Power”, 1977; and “The Kennedy Neurosis: 1973; these are “psychohistory” explorations of Sex, Death and Politics in the U.S. which have a number of revealing entries on John F Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and other damned and damaged men.
I will be posting on my Substack on this soon.
Keep safe and free.