I’m reminded of journalist Michael Hastings who wrote some nasty things about Gen. McChrystal and later on suffered a fatal car crash in 2013 where it looked like the (borrowed) car was remotely hijacked, accelerated, and run straight into a tree, resulting in total destruction and instant death.
Also I have to think of Isaac Kappy who in 2019 named famous Hollyweird pedocriminals and got arkancided shortly after his livestream, despite telling everyone he wasn’t suicidal. Anne Heche was allegedly working on a movie about child trafficking and therefore she probably triggered the same scumbags that went after Kappy.
The leak of the CIA hacking tools AKA Wikileaks' Vault 7 demonstrate the interest in vehicular hacking. A common car OS is QNX, although I am not familiar with the level of integration with it and systems governing powertrain and steering. In theory, a vehicle can be hacked remotely via any connectivity interface or through the on board OBD port that leads straight into diagnostics. In order to perform diagnosis, there must be pathways into every reporting system e.g. steering an powertrain. If you can deliver simple instructions to a system, all you would need to do to crash a car is implant an "ON" or "FULL POWER" signal to the electronic throttle, which could be set to randomly or periodically fire. It would be then up to the skill and awareness of the driver to come up with an override in whatever time they had.
The obvious one would be to either stamp the brakes to a full stop which might stall the engine if persisted in gear or just turn off the ignition. However, both options could still fail depending upon the sophistication of the hack and and kind of ignition. A purely electronic one without a truly mechanical switch at the key could remain on, which is more likely in keyless vehicles.
Another option would be to put the car in to neutral, then brake manually with both footbrake and handbrake. An electronic handbrake could also be disabled by a capable hacker, if the system was suitably integrated.
These possibilities betray again how powerless users of technology truly are. We are all using complex equipment without any idea of how they work, their vulnerabilities and how they can be hacked.
The argument for driving a "vintage" car of low complexity gets stronger every day.
I am driving a “vintage” diesel with stick shift and no electronics besides the radio. These oldies but goldies should also be able to survive an EMP attack which suddenly doesn’t seem to be so unlikely anymore, thanks to our insane western “leaders”.
I remember a video that came out after the Hastings incident where two guys sat in a modern car in a parking garage. The passenger had a laptop wirelessly connected to the car’s OS. He was able to start the engine, disengage the parking brakes, accelerate, steer, stop, and then kill the engine. The driver didn’t touch anything and was completely baffled. Unfortunately, I didn’t save the clip b/c back in those days internet censorship wasn’t as outrageous as it is now.
Yep, thanks. The one in the AOL article was the one I remembered. That’s one of the many reasons why I’ll never get a Tesla, which can be downgraded or locked by our technocratic overlords anytime they see fit: “… what’s with the owner looking up the date of that protest against the coming climate-lockdowns online? No more driving for you, buddy!” I’ve heard these thingies can even be programmed to lock you in and drive you straight to the next police station in case the popos are looking for ya?
Continuing to think out loud, if the brake pedal is electronically connected too, it can be hacked as well. You can test this by rolling the car with the ignition off, key out, then pumping the brake pedal. You should be able to get enough pressure into the brakes if you have a mechanically connected pedal. It's an easy test and something useful to know about your car. Steering is another system that is dependent upon electronically maintained hydraulic pressure, which is why modern cars are very difficult to steer with the ignition off as the pressure drops from the system with the pump off (plus the steering lock engages with enough turning with the physical key removed).
If you were in a hacked car that was accelerating, you are likely to have very little time in any traffic or urban area to react. If the brakes didn't work, one other option might be to select neutral, use whatever clear road you have to steer enough to rub off speed then deliberately select reverse if possible. Although that is going to smash the gearbox, that whole process should impart some braking and net energy dispersal that could slow the car, if not stop it.
All of the above is beyond most people who've not been trained in any of this or given any time to thinking about it.
There are two films that will probably never see the light of day. Ann Heche's Girl in Room 13 and The Sound of Freedom, starring Jim Caviezel, which was supposed to come out two years ago. Both are about trafficking, although nothing bad seems to have befallen Caviezel, and hopefully won't.
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I’m reminded of journalist Michael Hastings who wrote some nasty things about Gen. McChrystal and later on suffered a fatal car crash in 2013 where it looked like the (borrowed) car was remotely hijacked, accelerated, and run straight into a tree, resulting in total destruction and instant death.
Also I have to think of Isaac Kappy who in 2019 named famous Hollyweird pedocriminals and got arkancided shortly after his livestream, despite telling everyone he wasn’t suicidal. Anne Heche was allegedly working on a movie about child trafficking and therefore she probably triggered the same scumbags that went after Kappy.
The leak of the CIA hacking tools AKA Wikileaks' Vault 7 demonstrate the interest in vehicular hacking. A common car OS is QNX, although I am not familiar with the level of integration with it and systems governing powertrain and steering. In theory, a vehicle can be hacked remotely via any connectivity interface or through the on board OBD port that leads straight into diagnostics. In order to perform diagnosis, there must be pathways into every reporting system e.g. steering an powertrain. If you can deliver simple instructions to a system, all you would need to do to crash a car is implant an "ON" or "FULL POWER" signal to the electronic throttle, which could be set to randomly or periodically fire. It would be then up to the skill and awareness of the driver to come up with an override in whatever time they had.
The obvious one would be to either stamp the brakes to a full stop which might stall the engine if persisted in gear or just turn off the ignition. However, both options could still fail depending upon the sophistication of the hack and and kind of ignition. A purely electronic one without a truly mechanical switch at the key could remain on, which is more likely in keyless vehicles.
Another option would be to put the car in to neutral, then brake manually with both footbrake and handbrake. An electronic handbrake could also be disabled by a capable hacker, if the system was suitably integrated.
These possibilities betray again how powerless users of technology truly are. We are all using complex equipment without any idea of how they work, their vulnerabilities and how they can be hacked.
The argument for driving a "vintage" car of low complexity gets stronger every day.
I am driving a “vintage” diesel with stick shift and no electronics besides the radio. These oldies but goldies should also be able to survive an EMP attack which suddenly doesn’t seem to be so unlikely anymore, thanks to our insane western “leaders”.
I remember a video that came out after the Hastings incident where two guys sat in a modern car in a parking garage. The passenger had a laptop wirelessly connected to the car’s OS. He was able to start the engine, disengage the parking brakes, accelerate, steer, stop, and then kill the engine. The driver didn’t touch anything and was completely baffled. Unfortunately, I didn’t save the clip b/c back in those days internet censorship wasn’t as outrageous as it is now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG4F5xKqNf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjrQclEi9fo
https://www.aol.com/article/2015/07/21/here-is-how-hackers-can-remotely-take-control-of-your-car/21212188/
Yep, thanks. The one in the AOL article was the one I remembered. That’s one of the many reasons why I’ll never get a Tesla, which can be downgraded or locked by our technocratic overlords anytime they see fit: “… what’s with the owner looking up the date of that protest against the coming climate-lockdowns online? No more driving for you, buddy!” I’ve heard these thingies can even be programmed to lock you in and drive you straight to the next police station in case the popos are looking for ya?
Continuing to think out loud, if the brake pedal is electronically connected too, it can be hacked as well. You can test this by rolling the car with the ignition off, key out, then pumping the brake pedal. You should be able to get enough pressure into the brakes if you have a mechanically connected pedal. It's an easy test and something useful to know about your car. Steering is another system that is dependent upon electronically maintained hydraulic pressure, which is why modern cars are very difficult to steer with the ignition off as the pressure drops from the system with the pump off (plus the steering lock engages with enough turning with the physical key removed).
If you were in a hacked car that was accelerating, you are likely to have very little time in any traffic or urban area to react. If the brakes didn't work, one other option might be to select neutral, use whatever clear road you have to steer enough to rub off speed then deliberately select reverse if possible. Although that is going to smash the gearbox, that whole process should impart some braking and net energy dispersal that could slow the car, if not stop it.
All of the above is beyond most people who've not been trained in any of this or given any time to thinking about it.
There are two films that will probably never see the light of day. Ann Heche's Girl in Room 13 and The Sound of Freedom, starring Jim Caviezel, which was supposed to come out two years ago. Both are about trafficking, although nothing bad seems to have befallen Caviezel, and hopefully won't.